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Analysis and discussion of flight records from aircraft N908JE and N212JE. FAA records and FOIA released documents.

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u/FlightTracker_
2mo ago

The pilots' testimonies - what they saw and logged

Pilots were key Maxwell trial witnesses. Summary of their testimony: **Larry Visoski (chief pilot):** - Flew for JE 1991-2019 - Maintained flight logs - Testified about passenger patterns - Described young female passengers **David Rodgers (pilot):** - Flew 1990-2019 - Kept detailed logs - Testified about specific flights - Logs entered as evidence **Key revelations:** - Confirmed celebrity passenger names - Described operational procedures - Noted ages of some passengers - Both granted immunity Trial transcripts, Day 3-5, available on PACER.
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DS
u/DataScraper
11mo ago

Flight path visualization - 15 years of data mapped

Finally finished my visualization project. **What I built:** - Interactive map showing all documented flights - Filter by year, destination, passenger - Animation showing patterns over time - Heatmap of most frequent routes **Key findings:** - Clear seasonal patterns (winter = Caribbean) - Frequency increased 2001-2005 - Sharp drop after 2008 - Routes changed after conviction **Technical details:** - Python for data processing - D3.js for visualization - Data from all released FOIA logs Live demo: [link] Source code: [link] Let me know if you find errors or want features added.
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u/FlightTracker_
11mo ago

1995-1999 gap in flight records - what happened?

The released flight logs have a significant gap. **What we have:** - 1999-2005: Relatively complete - 2005-2011: Sporadic - 2011-2019: Limited **What's missing:** - 1995-1998: Almost nothing - This is the period when operations allegedly began scaling up **Possible explanations:** 1. Different aircraft not covered by FOIA 2. Records destroyed/lost 3. FOIA request didn't cover right agencies 4. Records exist but are being withheld Has anyone filed FOIA specifically for this period? The N908JE wasn't registered until 1999, so maybe a different tail number? FAA records might help identify earlier aircraft.
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CR
u/CrossRefKing
12mo ago

Cross-referencing the 2003 flight logs with Palm Beach party records

Found something interesting when comparing different document sources. The 2003 calendar seized from Palm Beach shows "dinner party" events on specific dates. Cross-referencing with flight arrivals: **March 15, 2003:** - N908JE arrives PBI 3:45 PM - Calendar shows dinner party same evening - 8 passengers on manifest **April 22, 2003:** - Same pattern - N908JE arrives 4:12 PM - Calendar shows event **June 8, 2003:** - Similar correlation This establishes a pattern: flights timed to events. The manifest names for these flights would be significant. Document refs: - Flight logs: DOJ-FOIA-2024-00521 - Calendar: PB-SEARCH-2005-CAL-003
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u/DocumentArchivist
1y ago

The "black book" vs flight logs - why they don't always match

Seeing confusion about different document types. Let me clarify: **The "black book":** - Contact book maintained by household staff - Contains 1,500+ names with phone numbers - Being listed does NOT mean someone flew on planes or visited properties - Many entries are business contacts, doctors, lawyers, etc. **Flight logs:** - Actual records of who flew on aircraft - Maintained by pilots - Much smaller subset of names - More directly relevant to activities **The overlap:** About 15% of black book names appear in flight logs. The rest are just contacts. STOP conflating these two sources. It makes us look sloppy.
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JT
u/JustTheFacts
1y ago

Bill Clinton flights - separating fact from fiction

This comes up constantly and there's a lot of misinformation. Here's what the actual flight logs show: **Documented flights (from released logs):** - Multiple trips confirmed on N908JE - Destinations included Africa (documented humanitarian trip) - Asia trips also documented - TIST (St. Thomas) trips: Logs show several instances **What Secret Service records show:** - USSS accompanied on some trips - SS has separate records (not fully released) **What's NOT confirmed:** - Claims beyond what logs show - Specific island visits require manifest cross-referencing I'm not defending anyone - just trying to keep us accurate. Document what's provable. Relevant log pages: DOJ-FOIA-2024-00456 through 00478
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u/FlightTracker_
1y ago

Helicopter flights not in the main logs - N474AW analysis

While everyone focuses on the jets, there was also helicopter traffic. N474AW was a Sikorsky S-76 used for island transfers from St. Thomas. **What we know:** - Operated 2002-2008 - Primary route: TIST → Little St. James (10 min flight) - Separate logs from main aircraft - Less complete passenger records These logs are in a different document batch (DOJ-FOIA-2024-HELO-001). Only 47 pages released compared to 2000+ for the jets. Anyone else noticed these? The helicopter manifest format is different and harder to read.
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u/FlightTracker_
1y ago

Second aircraft identified: N212JE flight patterns 2000-2008

Everyone focuses on N908JE but there was a second plane. N212JE was a Gulfstream G-IV registered to one of JE's companies. It operated from 2000-2008 with different routes: **Top Destinations (N212JE):** - Columbus, OH: 34 trips - Bedford, MA: 28 trips - Hanscom Field: 22 trips These are different from the N908JE pattern. More domestic East Coast focus. The Columbus frequency is interesting - anyone know the significance of that location? Flight data source: FAA N-number registry + FlightAware historical
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u/FlightTracker_
1y ago

Passenger manifest discrepancies - names that appear on logs but not manifests

I've been cross-referencing the flight logs with passenger manifests and found some interesting gaps. There are 23 flights where the log shows passengers but no manifest was included in the FOIA release. These are primarily from 2001-2003. Missing manifests: - March 15, 2001: TEB → TIST (4 passengers listed) - April 22, 2001: PBI → TEB (6 passengers) - July 8, 2002: SAF → TEB (3 passengers) - [Full list in comments] Could be incomplete FOIA response, could be the manifests never existed. Anyone know how to file a follow-up FOIA request specifically for these dates?
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u/FlightTracker_
1y ago

Flight log analysis: Most frequent destinations 1998-2005

I wrote a script to parse all the released flight logs and create frequency analysis. Here are the top destinations for N908JE: | Destination | Code | Count | |-------------|------|-------| | St. Thomas, USVI | TIST | 127 | | Teterboro, NJ | TEB | 203 | | Palm Beach, FL | PBI | 89 | | Santa Fe, NM | SAF | 34 | | Paris, France | LFPB | 28 | Teterboro is high because it's the departure/return point for NYC trips. The Santa Fe frequency surprised me - anyone know why that location specifically? Raw data and methodology in comments.
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u/FlightTracker_
1y ago

Found something interesting in the Feb 2002 logs - N908JE made 3 trips to TIST in one week

Just going through the FOIA releases and noticed tail number N908JE had an unusual pattern in February 2002. Trip 1: Feb 4, 2002 - TEB to TIST (Teterboro to St. Thomas) Trip 2: Feb 7, 2002 - TIST to TEB Trip 3: Feb 9, 2002 - TEB to TIST Three trips in 5 days is way above the normal frequency. Cross-referencing with the passenger manifests from the same period... Document reference: HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_016847
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